Frequently Asked Questions !!


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We have tried to collect some of the most frequently asked questions about the LegUp System, and tried to supply you with easy to understand answers. Highlight the question mark icon, and you will get a short answer. Not enough information? Click on 'More Info' for more detailed information. In either case, we hope these help you better understand this remarkable system. If not, give us a call at 407-834-5007, or drop us a line at: Info@LandinGear.com.


Questions



What is LegUp, Anyway What is LegUp?

Can I Install LegUp Myself Can I Install Legup Myself?

Will LegUp Keep My Bike From Falling Over Will LegUp keep my bike upright?

Is LegUp Completely Automatic Will LegUp keep my bike upright?

Do I Have to Put My Feet Down Do I Have To Put My Feet Down?

Can I Use LegUp as a Kickstand Can I use LegUp as a Kickstand?

I Am a New Rider; Will LegUp Help Me I Am a New Rider; Will LegUp Help Me?

Does LegUp Fit Any Bike Does LegUp Fit Any Bike?

How Long Do Those Wheels Last How Long do the Wheels Last?

How Does LegUp Determine Speed How Does Legup Sense Speed ?

My Bike is Lowered, Is That O.K. My Bike is Lowered; is That OK?

What Makes the Legs Move, Hydraulics Are the Legs Hydraulic?

What is LegUp Plus and is it Right For Me What is LegUp Plus?

I Have LegUp. Can I Upgrade to a Plus Can I Upgrade to LegUp Plus?

What is LegUp LITE What is LegUp LITE?

Can I Upgrade My LegUp LITE System Can I Upgrade LegUp LITE

How do I choose? LITE or Original Version How do I Choose; LITE/Original?





Answers



What is LegUp, Anyway?

LegUp Landingear is a computerized Motorcycle Stabilization system. It helps folks balance their bikes at slow speeds by using a set of retractable wheels. The wheels raise and lower by sensing vehicle speed and operator wishes. The wheels articulate to allow leaning of the bike while the leg system is in the lowered position. An onboard computer controls all functions.



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Can I Install LegUp Myself?

LegUp Landingear can be installed by any qualified motorcycle mechanic. We have a list of dealers at our DEALERS page, that can handle the job. The shop that takes care of your bike is also likely qualified. If you take care of your own bike, and know your way around some tools, you can try it yourself. We have VERY detailed instructions available on our MANUALS page. Most installations are completely BOLT-ON, with Plug-N-Play wiring; no cutting or soldering required. We provide technical support for you or your installer if needed.



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Will LegUp Keep My Bike From Falling Over ?

Our normal legup system is designed to help you keep your bike upright. Because it allows you to lean your bike with the wheels lowered, it will also allow the bike to fall over if you don't balance it. The system will make the bike feel lighter and easier to balance. Remember LegUp is only a helper; You are the one to make sure the bike remains upright at all times.



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Is LegUp Completely Automatic?

Legup is an automated system that deploys (lowers) and retracts (raises) a set of wheels to help stabilize your bike. If the wheels are deployed, the wheels will retract automatically as soon as your speed goes over 9MPH (approximately). If the wheels are up, you need to tell LegUp that you want them to deploy the next time you stop. A simple press of the button will do this. A light will blink to let you know that you have removed the safety and the wheels WILL come down the next time you slow down (whether that is in 50 feet or 50 miles!). We ask you to tell the system you would like the wheels to deploy on your next stop for safety! If you happen to be making a slow turn, and we allowed the wheels to come down everytime you slowed, this could upset the motorcycle. Allowing you to tell the system when and how you would like to use it seems to work the best.



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Do I Have to Put My Feet Down?

While the LegUp System can maintain the balance of a bike, there are too many factors involved to trust anything but your skills for your safety! Speed, road conditions, bike loading; all influence the balance of a motorcycle. We recommend that once you have become familiar with the LegUp system, you ride as if it is not there. As the vehicle is stopped, if the conditions are right and your feet are near the ground, you will likely not have to put them down; but relying on ANYTHING but your skills and judgment to keep you balanced is foolish! Using this mindset will allow you to get the most out of your motorcycle, and the LegUp system.



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Can I Use LegUp as a Kickstand?

The easy answer is yes. In the Owners manual, we suggest you keep your bike upright with the legs down. Since LegUp allows you to lean the bike with the wheels down, we also recommend you deploy your side-stand, and set the front wheel a bit to the left. Using this methodology, if the bike is bumped, it will fall onto its side-stand. In some cases, on some bikes, the bike without a rider may not be stable enough to leave completely upright. In these cases, you can leave the legs down, and set the bike on its side-stand. It will be much easier to lift off the stand with the legs down!

We NEVER recommend leaving your bike in the upright position in public parking areas unless you will remain with the bike. Curious onlookers are SURE to ruin your day! You must also be sure that the bike is on level ground! If not, leave the bike in gear so it does not roll on its own!

If you have a PLUS system, you can leave the wheels down with Great confidence that it will remain upright.



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I Am a New Rider; Will LegUp Help Me?

Legup was designed to help riders who have been riding for a long time. Whether age or injury has caused them problems, we wanted to help these riders keep riding. Because LegUp can influence the handling of the vehicle, inexperienced riders may be surprised by the influence the legs have on the vehicle. We expect a certain level of expertise by the operator to work with our system under various conditions. Our best customers are those that use our system as if it is not there; they ride as they always did and let LegUp make it easier for them. We don't recommend using our system as a training aid or as an offset to limited riding skills.



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Does LegUp Fit Any Bike?

LegUp Landingear is individually engineered for every bike that it fits on. While the Computer, the Control Box, the Legs & The Wheels are shared by EVERY available model (see MODELS here), the attachment points for every bike are different. Because the LegUp System is designed to BOLT-ON, much time and engineering go into each model before manufacturing can take place. Your model may not be available right now. Feel free to contact us. We add models all the time and do custom installations upon request!



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How Long Do Those Wheels Last?

The LegUp Landingear System uses High-Speed skateboard wheels and bearings. These wheels are very stong and can stand up to lots of punishment. They are designed to travel at speeds over 40 miles per hour. On the LegUp system, the speed when the wheels are down is never over 10MPH, and the wheels are not in contact with the ground for very long. While none of our customers have ever asked for replacement wheels in the over two years since LegUp was developed, we can supply replacement sets for around $60 plus shipping. Changing the wheels takes minutes and requires an allen wrench and a box wrench only.



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How Does LegUp Determine Speed ?

LegUp utilizes a Proximity Sensor to determine vehicle speed. Depending on the installation, this could be mounted at the front or rear wheel. This sensor picks up metal passing close by and counts each time an episode occurs. Sometimes we let the sensor 'SEE' pulley bolts on the rear wheel or rotor bolts on either wheel. This method is very accurate and does NOT rely on the speedometer of the bike. The sensor is made for industrial environments so it can take the harsh treatment a motorcycle can throw at it.



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My Bike is Lowered, Is That O.K.?

The LegUp System typically does not care about your bike being lowered or not. There are a few exceptions; Softails are so low that we REQUIRE them to be at stock height. Gold Wings have Air suspension and we have some recomendations on the settings and how they work.

The computer that runs the LegUp System, REMEMBERS how low to lower the wheels and how high to raise them. During installation we TEACH the system these limits, and the computer remembers them until changed again.



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What Makes the Legs Move, Hydraulics?

The legs of the LegUp system are activated up and down by an Electrical Actuator that connects to a mounting point on the bike, and the leg system itself. This actuator gets told by the computer when to lower or raise the legs. The actuator also has what is called a 'POTENTIOMETER' which is what tells the computer how far up or down the legs are.

We are experimenting with micro hydraulic systems for future projects, but the jury is still out on these. Hydraulics are expensive and take much more room than these modern Electrical Actuators, making our first choice simple.



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What is LegUp Plus and is it Right For Me?

The LegUp Plus system was designed initially for some folks who had little or no use of their legs, but still wanted to ride on 2 wheels! The 2 extra wheels and springs and the limited amount of travel designed into the Plus system, make it VERY stable. With this stability comes trade-offs. Because the Plus system will basically keep the bike upright under most circumstances, how it is is deployed comes into play. Manual use of the system is recommended in most cases to make the transition from riding to stopping easier. If you need this type of help, please contact us at 407-834-5007 to discuss the pros and cons of the Plus system. Thanks!



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I Have LegUp. Can I Upgrade to a Plus?

If you are a LegUp Customer now, we can re-manufacture your legs into a PLUS system in a matter of a few days. As explained earlier, we would discuss with you if the PLUS system is the correct choice. If so, you have just the legs removed from your bike, send them to us, we re-manufacture, paint them, and send them back to you. The cost including Domestic Shipping is $500.



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What is LegUp LITE?

The LITE version of the LegUp Landingear system functions in the EXACT same manner as our regular system with one difference. Instead of using a computer and various sensors to control the movement of the wheel system, the wheels are moved manually through two switches on the handlebar. One switch raises the legs and the other lowers them, for as long as you hold the switch button down. Why LegUp LITE? To reduce the cost of the system by $500. This cost reduction may allow someone who needs the help LegUp can offer, but finds it just out of their reach, financially. Help balancing the bike is the same, just controlling the system is a bit less automatic!



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Can I Upgrade My LegUp LITE System?

If you have a LegUp LITE system, and want to add the Automation System later, you can. We sell the upgrade as a new wiring harness, a computer module, and a speed sensor with a mount designed for your motorcycle. The new harness basically plugs into the wiring already installed on your bike. The mechanical pieces of the LegUp System do NOT need to be removed, just routing and placing the new harness is all it takes to install the upgrade, and your LITE system is upgraded to the fully automatic, Original LegUp Control system!



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How do I choose? LITE or Original Version?

The ONLY reason to choose the LITE system over the Original is cost. While the LITE system is less expensive, it comes with compromise. Controlling the wheel movement manually is FAR more cumbersome than letting the computer do it for you. On the original system, you can press a button for a moment and the wheels will be raised, or let them come up automatically with speed. With the LITE system, you would have to press and hold a button for about two seconds to raise the wheels. Less convenient, certainly. Another thing to consider is that the LITE system, with no speed sensor on-board, will allow you to keep the wheels down at any speed; you are responsible to raise them! The Original, will NEVER let you travel over 9 MPH without raising the wheels automatically.

The same scenario exists bringing the wheels down. The automated version asks you to press a button once, either under 9MPH for immediate lowering of the wheels, or over 9MPH to have the wheels lowered the next time you stop. With the LITE version, you have to press and hold the button until the wheels are all the way down. Again this is less convenient, but $500 is $500!



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